Jeff Mesnil

With MySQL, ObjectWeb covers (almost) all the enterprise application stack

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p>That’s a great news for ObjectWeb that MySQL AB joins the consortium.
If we now look at the range of the members and products of ObjectWeb, it appears that the consortium now spans almost all the stack of entreprise application:

What is missing to cover the whole stack?

  • a web server but Apache httpd is ubiquitous
  • an ESB (JORAM is just a MOM, nothing less, nothing more)
  • a portal
  • anything else?

Right now, I don’t see another Open Source organization which covers such a wide range (Apache and JBoss, Inc being the other ones I think of). That may prove a key advantage for ObjectWeb if companies can get all-in-one support for ObjectWeb products through its members.

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p>But ObjectWeb has also to take care to not spread too thin. The consortium has the bad habit to separate too much the work done (try to count the number of mailing lists and workgroups!) and to not encourage collaboration between its projects enough. To become more succesful in the Open Source space, ObjectWeb should be less a cathedral and more a bazaar.

As for MySQL AB and ObjectWeb collaboration, I’m particularly excited by the prospect of an out-of-the-box clustered MySQL thanks to C-JDBC

Anyway, congrats to MySQL and ObjectWeb guys!

Posted by on July 28, 2004

Comments

  • mvaldes says:

    Hi Jeff,

    Three weeks ago I was talking in JavaOne with Christophe Ney about the problem of projects colaboration inside ObjectWeb and even more about the possibility to create “open source projects suites”. This option will allow users to pick up suites of ready to use ObjectWeb projects. In the same context, useful documentation could be provided for helping users to put together ObjectWeb projects.

    What do you think about ?

    Regards,

    Miguel Valdes Faura
    Bonita workflow project

  • jmesnil says:

    Hi Miguel, sorry to have been so long to reply.

    Concerning your comments, I thinks it’s a step in the right direction. ObjectWeb is obviously lacking cohesion and collaboration between all its projects.
    It’d be great that the service companies which are members of the Consortium offer off-the-shelf applications composed of various ObjectWeb applications (e.g. JOnAS + C-JDBC + Bonita + …).
    I don’t really expect project teams to do that since they are too much absorbed by their own projects. As an ex-member of JOnAS, JORAM and JOTM, I experienced it. The time I spent helping integration of JOTM with Tomcat, Jetty or OfBiz was not spent on improving JOTM! :-)

    What is missing in ObjectWeb is integrators and the various service companies involved in the consortium would be a tremendous help for that.

    jeff

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